The book 'Elites: can you rise to the top without losing your soul?' argues that the way meritocracy works tricks us. It leads us to give too much attention and respect to the contribution of the top level - 'the C-suite' in corporate jargon - and underestimate the talent and leadership work at the next level down. This White Paper co-authored by Douglas and Jo Hill dives deeper, and reports a discussion of the topic on 31 March 2022 with the editor of Management Today, Kate Magee.